Show: date with Chris Hayes: Guest March 6, 2018: Josh Barro, L Joy Williams, Nick Confessore, Beto O'Rourke, Maya Wiley, laura Bassett-make a living on what you did or said yesterday, this morning, this afternoon or last night.
Now, you have to say now, and now, the president just wrote on Twitter, "we will make a decision soon to appoint a new chief economic adviser.
Many people want the job.
Well, choose wisely.
Hard ball now.
Thanks to Chris Hayes for "all-in" starting now. (
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Chris Hayes, MSNBC host: all in tonight.
US President Donald Trump: Trust me everyone wants to work at the White House.
They all want part of the Oval Office, part of the West Wing.
Hayes: With the end of Mueller's investigation and the flight of staff, the president said there was nothing to see here.
Many people want to come in.
I can choose anyone.
Hayes: again, he refused to recognize Russia's full interference in the election.
TRUMP: Of course there are interventions, and there may be interventions from other countries and individuals.
Hayes: What about Trump?
The time consultant was scared.
Roger Stone, former campaign advisor to the Trump campaign: I was accused of being a dirty liar.
I don't have a trick in my bag. it's treason.
Hayes: What does Miller have on Roger Stone?
Also, trying to warn our spy, Jane Mayer, and from side shows with secret clients to blatant violations of the law, corruption in the Trump administration is evident.
Trump: This is the most corrupt crowd in Washington.
Hayes: everything is starting now.
Who can do better with BitTorrent? (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: Good evening. This is Chris Hayes.
At the White House today, President Trump announced to the world that everyone, everyone, wants to work with him and everyone wants an "Oval Office ".
Just a few hours later, Trump's chief economic adviser finally made his way to exports.
All of this happened when Robert Mueller attacked Trump inside and outside the White House.
The New York Times revealed that Gary Cohn, the president's chief economic adviser, plans to resign.
Goldman Sachs's former CEO, Cohn, joined the White House at the beginning and has been with the President since Charlottsville, after tweeting about the size of his nuclear button, he belittled African countries.
But for Gary Cohen, tariffs are clearly a bridge too far away.
Earlier, NBC's Haley Jackson noticed Cohen's empty chair at an event at the White House.
The president at the event insisted morale remained high. (
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Trump: The White House has tremendous energy.
It has a great spirit.
This is a good place to work.
Many people want every job.
You know, where I read, oh my God, maybe people don't want to work for Trump, but trust me, everyone wants to work at the White House.
They all want part of the Oval Office.
They want a western wing.
I like conflict.
I like that two people have different views, of course I do.
Then I make a decision.
But I like to watch.
I like to watch it and I think it's the best way. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: We don't know why we wanted Hicks or Gary Cohen to leave the Trump administration, but yesterday we did see what the pressure from Robert Mueller was doing to the president's colleagues.
It is disturbing that former political assistant Sam nuboger melted on the live TV railing, opposed the demands of the grand jury summons, and repeatedly vowed not to comply.
After all, after Nunberg said he would risk being imprisoned in order to avoid handing over the summoned documents, he said he planned to work together, which was a bit of a foregone.
At his event today, the president managed to avoid answering questions about the biggest revelation of the Nunberg's performance yesterday, which Nunberg thought was based on the questions raised by the Mueller team and the special adviser had goods on the President(
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Katie tours, msnbc anchor: You were sitting in that room and asked by Miller's investigators.
I want to hear from you directly.
What do you think they think of the president?
Sam nuburg, former assistant to the Trump campaign: I think they might. TUR: What?
I think he might have done something in the election, but I'm not sure.
Why do you think so?
Nuburg: I talked to Steve Bannon for the first time after I went in last week-I talked to him, Steve and I were discussing how we both felt, Katie, as I told you, trump may have done a lot during the election. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: Nunberg later told MSNBC's Ari Melber that he thought Mueller was particularly concerned about the president's business interests.
But the most worrying course of investigation involves Roger Stone, Trump's close friend, his mentor. (
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NUNBERG: they tried to file perjury against Roger Stone and I wouldn't let them do that.
Roger is my mentor and Roger is like family to me and I won't do that.
I'm not going to do that.
Roger didn't talk, Roger probably lied about it, but Roger didn't talk-Ali Melber, MSNBC host: Let me say, you're saying that as nunberg I'm not going there to get them to file a lawsuit against Roger.
Roger did nothing. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: Roger Stone is a notorious political dirty liar trained under the leadership of Richard Nixon, who does have Nixon's face tattoo on his back.
That's not Photoshop, that's true-that's Roger's back muscle.
I'm Roger Stone.
Stone linked his former business partner, Paul Manafort, to the Trump campaign, which is an interesting detail given everything we know.
During that campaign, Stone raised a lot of questions while communicating online with Russian layoffs, and appeared to have predicted the hacking of Clinton campaign character John Podesta.
This is the tweet Stone sent on August 2016.
"Believe me, the time for Podesta will come soon.
Hotels near Podesta
"Later, Podesta e-was released in WikiLeaks-
In the Mail, Stone said a lot to his head, Julian Assange. (
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Stone: Recently a man in the middle met him in London, he is my friend and his friend, a believer in freedom, and I am sure the mother will come on Wednesday.
It wouldn't be a surprise for October if I told you what it was, but I have reason to believe it was devastating because someone with political judgment who knows the subject told me about it. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: He said we shouldn't be on vacation two days ago.
It's Friday, not Wednesday.
In an interview with Chuck Todd on this network today, Stone took a distance from Nunberg's performance yesterday and insisted that he had done nothing wrong. (
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STONE: I don't know anything about the content, source or exact time disclosed by WikiLeaks.
I never expected John Podesta.
The mail will be hacked.
I predict that his business activities will be reviewed.
Chuck todd, MSNBC host: Have you given anything to Mr. Mueller?
Stone: I was not asked to do this.
I did not receive a subpoena or a request for an interview. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: Matt Miller is the Chief Justice Department spokesman under President Obama and is now an MSNBC justice and security analyst.
Maya Willie is a civil rights lawyer, a former federal prosecutor, and Laura Brazil, a senior political correspondent for Huffington Post, and I discuss what is happening in the Trump world right now.
There are too many things to do.
When I try to get rid of the rock rolling behind me, I feel like a panic is rising and that's the news.
But let's start by looking at the stress of these people up close and what you saw yesterday.
Sam nuburg credits your live broadcast to the aviation legal counsel.
I want you to send him the bill. Ex-
Trump said Sam nuboger said he decided to cooperate after accepting the established legal advice from Maya Willie.
She is very, very smart.
With what I think is appreciated, if you 've never been on the wrong side of this legal pressure, it's-it can really get people around.
Maya Willie, a civil rights lawyer: It's a stressful thing and I think it's important to admit it.
I want to correct it quickly.
I am an assistant US attorney in the New York civil department-Hayes: the civil department, not the prosecutor. Yes.
I'm a civil prosecutor, not a criminal prosecutor.
But I think what's important here is that this is an example of a White House and Sam is someone who doesn't have much political experience.
In any case, the reality of such a survey is devastating to anyone.
But I think we see this not only in Sam nuburg, but also in the White House.
I think hopefully Hicks, for example, because we know it's in Hayes: After a few hours of testimony, her resignation has to be under a lot of pressure.
Testimony for hours.
When you are interviewed by an experienced prosecutor, use email
They may ask for your mail or other files and you suddenly realize that you have a vulnerability that may not be understood at the beginning of the process.
Yes, like oh, I might have done something wrong, or I might have committed a crime-or something I think is like a gray zone or something they will never pursue.
Willie: or rotating in an affidavit is tantamount to perjury. HAYES: Right.
Matt, what did you do-I saw your reaction to Roger Stone's interview with Chuck Todd today, Stone is an interesting figure because he's a little flustered.
He has been quoted in many stories.
There seems to be a lot of these things guilty on their faces.
He said he did not work for the campaign.
After Nunberg basically said he did all this for Roger, what do you think about today's interview?
Matt Miller, justice and security analyst at MSNBC: Yes, Roger Stone, the last clip you played, he said that the FBI did not contact him, nor did Miller's team contact him.
I don't think it might be a good fact for him.
There are three possibilities.
First, Mueller had looked at everything about Stone and came to the conclusion that he had nothing to talk to because he had done nothing.
It seems unlikely and impossible to believe.
Second, he has been trying to pass, but he has not yet reached the stone.
It also seems hard to believe.
This is possible, but in the late stages of the campaign-in the game it seems unlikely to know how many other witnesses he spoke to, including very senior people.
But the third possibility is that Roger Stone, who is suing, is one of the targets of this investigation.
He already has all his emails. mails.
You know, he may have been pursuing more aggressive technology to listen to his phone calls.
Roger Stone is largely a target, and Roger Stone will find him prosecuted shortly before the incident.
I thought it was-you know, he held on to something that might have taken him off.
I think things should worry him very much.
Hayes: Mueller also surprised people, and I think it will definitely increase the psychological burden on everyone.
Laura Bassett, senior political reporter at Huffington Post: of course.
I think-I mean, it's not just this survey that puts pressure on people.
A lot of this-I mean, this guy was fired twice before he was fired for racist tweets.
I don't think that's a position.
Up guy knew what he was doing and he had fully understood it before he worked for the Trump administration.
What do I think is the point of all this-Hayes: Trump campaign, I should-Bassett: OK, sorry, Trump campaign.
I think all these interesting places will never be
Ended the conveyor belt for the Star Wars characters-I mean, now dozens of characters have left the Trump administration, some have been fired and lost, others ran away screaming at the White House.
I can imagine Hicks crying quietly in a corner.
After working for him, they all seemed to have been scarred.
It's amazing for me that he can do this-he can stand there today and say that everyone wants a part of this Oval Office. Who?
He did not attract the best and brightest.
Hayes: Well, for Gary Cohen, for the day the president stood there bragging about it, and for Gary Cohen, the news would be broken, for the straw that breaks the back of the camel, this is the tariff on aluminum and steel. WILEY: Yes.
What do you want to say?
Look, what everyone needs to understand about governing a country, a city, or anything that involves people's actual lives is that the risks are always high, right?
So whatever you're dealing with, it's a matter of simply managing the country's work, and it's a stressful thing in itself.
So in this case, instead of creating a team, Donald Trump spread the disagreement between people, and he did not accept the advice of the consultant, I mean, as far as Gary Cohen is concerned, you can't say he's not-he doesn't understand the economy.
I don't agree with him, but he doesn't understand. HAYES: Right.
He has some technical expertise.
Willie: he actually has some technical expertise, certainly more than Donald Trump.
So in such a position, under such pressure, looking at the train wreckage from governments around the world, from Wall Street itself, from everyone who knows what these tariffs represent, what we actually see is that someone may resign because they can't stop the train from colliding, or, frankly, because Trump refuses to listen and just wants to be "yes" people, this is a real possibility.
Hayes: One more question. who came in, right?
I mean, at this point, in particular, what happens as the survey approaches.
The president also expressed some views on Russian interference at the press conference.
He was asked about Russian interference.
I want to play and listen to your reaction. Take a listen. (
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Trump: The Russians have no effect on our vote, but there must be an intervention, and there may be intervention from other countries and other individuals.
But are you worried that Russia is trying to intervene in the midterm elections?
No, because no matter what they do, we will oppose it.
We will resist very strongly, we have a strong backup system, we are actually working all the time-we are not being praised for that, but we are actually working very hard in the "18-year elections" for the upcoming 20-year elections. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: What do you think?
Miller: I don't think they work very hard.
You know, we just haven't seen the president actually admit it in a mysterious way.
You can see that he continues to play down there because he says there may be other countries.
There is no evidence that other countries are interfering with our elections.
He continued to distort the facts.
I mean, if you think about it, you know, what might happen in the mid-term elections, like a little thought experiment.
Imagine, you know, a Democratic senator running for re-election.
Joe Donnelly of Indiana or Claire MacAskill of Missouri says imagine if their email
On October, an email popped up on WikiLeaks.
Do you think the president of the United States will stand up and say that this is inappropriate foreign interference in our campaign and elections? Or do you think he will use these emails?
Mail, the hackers who are good for him?
I think most people-I will answer the question and say that he will take advantage of it.
This tells you how far he still doesn't get the problem.
You may know that he will benefit from it as he did last time.
Hayes: or there's another explanation that he's guilty and knows what's going on.
That's not what I said.
But I think we all have an assumption.
People describe him as if he was offended by Russia's idea of winning the election, so that his brain froze.
It's like, well, it's possible.
I don't know, this is possible, but in this world, he may also have a clear conscience.
Brazil: of course.
Anyway, he is not like an innocent man.
He called at random on Fox News.
I think it's funny that people were a little bit laughing about Nunberg being drunk yesterday and calling all you know, all these cable news hosts.
Trump did the same thing, randomly called cable news and started tweeting people at 5: 00 A. M. m.
I mean, he's not as mentally broken as the person he hired, which leads me to believe he has something to hide.
Hayes: Matt Miller, Maya Willie and Laura Bassett, it's great that you can handle all of this here.
There's breaking news tonight, okay?
New witnesses in Miller's investigation.
According to the New York Times, Lebanese George Nader
The American, who represents the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, is essentially the ruler of the UAE, who is working with special advisers and testified to a grand jury last week.
According to The Times, Mueller seems to be looking at the impact of foreign funds on Miller.
Trump's political campaign asked witnesses about the possibility that George Nader would send money from the UAE to the president's political efforts.
OK, especially interested is that this is a very interesting place and a bit Baroque so please be patient.
Nader attended a meeting organized by his boss on last January, before Trump was sworn in, a Russian investor and Blackwater founder Eric Prince informally advised the Tepco transition team
One of the reporters who broke the story tonight, the New York Times Washington investigative reporter Mark Mazetti is with me now.
Mark, okay. Who is this guy?
Let's start there.
New York Times Washington investigative reporter Mark Mazetti: George Nader has been a mysterious international figure for some time.
You said he worked for Blackwater. He did back-
In his 90 s, channel negotiations between Israelis and Syrians have recently reshaped his image as a consultant to the crown prince of the UAE.
He has recently been in close contact with senior White House advisers, including Jared Kushner and Steve Bannon, who attended several meetings at the White House several times earlier last year. HAYES: OK.
So this is someone who has a connection with the UAE and he has a connection with the White House.
We knew he was at the White House, so we also knew he testified before the grand jury and worked with Miller.
Right? MAZZETTI: Yes.
We reported tonight that he arrived at Dulles Airport in Washington on January.
He received a subpoena and a search warrant as soon as he arrived.
The FBI confiscated his electronics and questioned him for hours.
He is cooperating with Mueller's investigation and the grand jury has asked him at least once.
So the question is, you know, what does he know, who might he get involved?
Hayes: If you want, please tell the audience where he went when he landed in the United States and was arrested by the FBI.
He was actually on his way to March. a-
An Lago in the plan-
The first anniversary of President Trump's administration. HAYES: OK.
There is one thing that makes my eyes a little cocked up now.
The meeting was held in Seychelles, a strange one.
This is a strange new story.
It's been broken before, basically you have Eric Prince, the Blackwater guy is an informal advisor to the Trump campaign, but he's a consultant, you have a Russian fund manager, they met in the Indian Ocean of Seychelles, and what do we now learn about the role of third party George Nader in that meeting?
MAZZETTI: Well, we know that Nadel was present as a consultant to the crown prince.
It's important because it links these threads that we 've been working on, and we reported on Nader over the weekend, a role that could be a channel for UAE funds to get into the campaign.
But now it seems that this is directly related to Mueller's main efforts, which is Russia's attempt to disrupt the 2016 campaign and any contacts the Trump administration has had with Russia over the past year.
Therefore, the role of Nader in the meeting is significant.
You're right. this question, this mysterious meeting, what happened.
At least, Emirates seems to be trying to play the role of matchmaker.
They are trying to see the United States and Russia develop better relations and become power brokers in the process.
So you have these informal advisers, Dimitriev, who is a very close advisor to Putin.
You have Eric Prince and people think he's very close to the transition and that's what happened at this meeting.
Hayes: I should have noticed that during the transition, we had Flynn and Kisliak talk about it and lie to the FBI, and Jared Kushner secretly met kislia with him back to the channel at Trump Tower.
Jared Kushner met with the head of a sanctioned Russian bank, a meeting with people close to Putin and a representative of the Trump campaign in Seychelles, all of this happened during the transition period of Mueller's attention, and I think it's a bit interesting to think about all of this in the context of this story.
Mark mazeti, thank you for your time.
Mazetti: Thank you.
Hayes: Well, the news of Mueller's new witness is directly related to the impact of foreign funds, followed by one of the most incredible reports about Trump and Russia.
Jane Mayer, author of The New Yorker, introduced the famous archivist Christopher Steele.
With me is Jane Mayer, who published an article about Christopher Steele in this week's New Yorker.
And Jane me-I was thinking about the article that I read twice now, and when I was dealing with the new news, the first thing you and Steele did was to see a bunch of points, then start trying to collect them and understand them.
I think we're all trying to understand this, is this just a bunch of random names?
Is this a bunch of random meetings?
What happened here?
What have you learned from covering this article, and how did Steele understand what he saw?
Jane Mayer, a staff writer for The New Yorker: So I think it's a good way of thinking.
In fact, an intelligence person I interviewed said that this is the collection of points, not the connection of points.
It was an early idea that there was a lot of Russian contacts in Trump's circle and his team.
They seem to-they 've been exploring and pushing in all directions, and you can see that they're interested in trying to lift sanctions and other policies that are good for Russia, and they're offering something to the Trump campaign.
They basically attacked Hillary Clinton.
All of this was seen early in Steele.
He is a trained former intelligence officer with expertise in Russia.
He's even been looking at this since June 2016-it's the first report he did, he got the message and he's terrified of what he saw.
He's worried about America. S. is in trouble.
He began to alert the Russians about to come.
This is June of 2016.
Of course, he worked for a company called Fusion GPS, which we later learned was originally hired by a Republican donor against Trump.
The contract was then handed over to a lawyer for Perkins Koy hired by the Clinton campaign.
But one of the most fascinating things about this article is you-your report seems to indicate that there is almost a wall that will actually know what Christopher Steele is doing with the Clinton campaign.
Just like none of them actually read these memos.
Mayer: It's almost exactly the right thing to do.
The general counsel, Mark Elias, is a firewall for legal purposes.
He wants to make sure that people in the campaign don't have to answer questions about people digging dirt and do opposition research on Trump.
So there is a lawyer/client privilege there and no one breaks through the wall on either side.
So you have Christopher Steele, who is remotely looking for all sorts of incredible things about Trump, some of which work in a way that is targeted at campaign officials, but it has to go through this firewall first, they can only get a filtered view.
Hayes: I have to say that I read the archive, like a lot of people, when Buzzfeed first posted it, and I heard rumors in advance about the existence of the archive.
I read the book and thought it looked crazy or it looked like a conspiracy theory. I don`t know.
I don't know what to do.
Obviously, you know, the allegations of sex workers urinating in bed are bolder.
But it all seems amazing.
Then things happened.
I mean, is this true when people say the file is not trustworthy?
Mayer: that's not true.
I mean, you have Dianne Feinstein, who used to be someone you know, a senior Democratic member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and now on the judicial committee, not saying anything is not credible.
Someone like Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen, who says he has the wrong place, is suing, but basically a lot of things look better and better over time.
That's-don't just take it away from me, but I interviewed some intelligence officers there, and the three top people in the CIA have been watching this closely, and they pointed out, you know, there seems to be a lot of minor issues that are being proven.
Hayes: one of the topics here and one of the things that I think is hard to track makes (INAUDIBLE)
Is that the case? Is it used in all of these cuts? outs.
You will see all these numbers and characters appear.
Here are Carter Page and George papasopoulos, who is meeting a professor of Malta in London, who is in contact with Russians, and now we have Eric Prince go to Seychelles, the UAE Crown Prince has a Russian fund manager and some Russian lawyers traveling to Trump Tower through the children of some Russian singers.
It seems to me that this is purposeful and part of Steele's finishing.
He tried to figure out where the wounds were.
The exit is related to the initial push of the Russians.
Mayer: You have to keep in mind that Steele has worked in MI6, the British secret intelligence agency for about 20 years and his expertise is in Russia.
So he knows the technology, he knows how Russia works, how their intelligence system works, so it's a bit familiar to him.
He's looking at the pattern. he's trying to be careful. Oh, my gosh.
You know, they're really trying to lure Trump and the people around him.
Hayes: Jane Mayer, in The New Yorker, this is a long story about Christopher Steele, the best thing I 've seen about him is the kind of mysterious character at the entrance to all this.
Thank you. you're with me.
Mayer: It's great to be with you.
Hayes: there's more breaking news tonight.
I can't-it happened five minutes before we aired.
Stomi Daniels is suing the President of the United States.
This is the story. (
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Hayes: it's breaking news this hour.
NBC News reported tonight that adult film actress stum Daniels is suing US President Donald Trump, saying the NDA she signed is invalid because Trump has never signed
The civil suit claimed that she did not disclose that the agreement with Trump's close relationship was invalid because both Daniels and Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen signed the agreement, but Trump never signed the agreement.
According to the lawsuit, Clifford and Trump-Clifford were her names, and their close relationship lasted from the summer of 2006 to 2007.
The incident allegedly began after Trump married Melania and the birth of their son, Barron.
Trump has never spoken publicly about so-called relationships, which is unusual to some extent.
Sarah Fitzpatrick, the investigative producer of NBC News, is on the phone with me now.
Sarah, this lawsuit has been filed, right?
NBC News investigative producer sarah fitzpatrick: Yes, it was submitted in Los Angeles later this afternoon.
Hayes: I mean, what's going on here?
It is speculated that the signature has been missing.
This is a bit difficult to understand.
FITZPATRICK): Yes.
So you know, the lawsuit claims that Trump must know what you know about this and the payment has happened, but he may not have signed it through the design so that he can stay away from it if the payment is made public.
Hayes: So she's saying now that she can't talk about it if the agreement is to be reached, he's deliberately not signing the agreement, right?
FITZPATRICK): Yes.
She therefore essentially claims that the agreement is not enforceable because he has never signed it.
Hayes: So it's not necessarily-it's not a response to any action he's taken as president of the United States, or to anything he or his allies or emissaries say about her.
It went back to the original-the original settlement they had?
FITZPATRICK): That's right.
However, she did point out in the lawsuit that just last week, Donald Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, tried to keep her silent by bringing an arbitration process.
So, even though this is back in the fall, there are a lot of things happening right now.
Hayes: Didn't Michael Cohen also ever come up with a letter from her that was supposedly like this, but is there one that doesn't look like her signature?
FITZPATRICK: Yes, so she claims that in the lawsuit, she claims that he forged the letter.
Hayes: Sorry, but again?
She claimed the letter was false.
She did not sign the letter.
Hayes: So, she accused the president's private lawyer of forging a letter for her in response to reports that there was an agreement between him and the adult film actress to pay the cover fee, stop her from talking about her affair with the president of the United States?
Patrick: Right.
She even called it a strategy of intimidation and coercion, which is a kind of coercion-sorry, I may have said something wrong and forced her to sign a false statement.
Hayes: There's an interesting legal issue here, and I think the most relevant precedent is when Bill Clinton was sued by Paula Jones, if I didn't get it all wrong, the Supreme Court-I think some judges later regret to allow this proceeding to continue, because it was the action taken before the president became president, and it may be the same here.
FITZPATRICK: You know, I'm not a lawyer, so I can't say that, but it's definitely going to raise some interesting questions.
Hayes: OK, Sarah fitzgerrard, great report. Many thanks.
Thank you very much.
Williams is a Democratic strategist;
MSNBC contributor Josh Barro often writes about the government on Business Insider;
Nick Confessore, political analyst at MSNBC, is a political and investigative journalist for The New York Times.
Josh barro of Business Insider: so a little bit about arbitration, because the question is what is she suing?
Like, you know, she's rich.
What does she want?
But if they have already started the arbitration process, that's what happened to Sam nuburg during the campaign.
You may recall that Nunberg, speaking bluntly to the president in the media, has signed a non-disclosure agreement, as many people who work around the president have done, they tried to file an arbitration process against him, and then Sam nuboger filed a lawsuit with the court in order to basically disclose this publicly and prevent Donald Trump from doing so privately.
So, you know, stomi Daniels has been on her all the time, and you know, the blink of an eye and the flick of the media tour.
I would love to know what they did to her in the arbitration and if they tried to assert . . . . . . Hayes: get the money back.
BARRO: or let her stop talking, though she doesn't say exactly that she's having an affair, you know, there's a NDA out there.
So it's interesting that she will claim that the agreement is invalid, but she will do the same on a public forum, which will end on MSNBC, basically trying to stop them from doing so privately.
Democratic strategist l joy williams: You know, this is my general idea from the point of view of thinking about desire, and obviously, going out in public, having this conversation, traveling.
This is just another example of how I can extend the conversation to keep myself in the conversation.
I saw this in some people within the Trump Organization.
Williams: How can I extend my time in front of the camera, I think so.
This is a very smart point of view.
I think the president is also amazing-I mean, once again, given what is happening in the world and in this administration, in fact, there is a group of people around him who are asking for love from the felony around him, like this is not the biggest deal in the world, but it is worth noting that the president did not answer any questions on this question.
Nick confessore of The New York Times: You know, it's kind of fascinating, just talking about how many other pressing issues and scandals are in the White House.
Frankly, if I were a White House journalist, I probably wouldn't have used my question on this, if half of his core circle had fallen on the Miller probe, that's just one other thing in any other government.
Oh, my God.
Confessor: it will be disastrous.
Think about Monica Lewinsky's scandal and how it almost brought President Clinton down.
It's like Trump said, take my beer. HAYES: Yeah.
And-I mean, this relationship has something to do with the general cumulative effect that we see in this regard, and in particular, I think at this point in this presidency, I think part of the reason is that they passed the tax cut bill, and there does seem to be a complete drift policy --
It is wise to know exactly what their project is.
Williams: It changes every day.
Hayes: What are you looking.
In fact, there are many scandals every day.
Daniels-level scandals are escalating, and scandals like the president's son are escalating. in-
The law uses American foreign policy to punish people who don't lend money to his father.
But, you know, Ben Smith wrote an interesting article in Buzzfeed, saying corruption will be important.
Like, you know, the Russian scandal or Daniels in the storm, anything personal can be irrelevant, but the ideas of these people are corrupt, they are self-
Trading is politically important.
Williams: What I want to ask is, because there are all kinds of scandals happening constantly, right there, we call the small scandal of the storm Daniels a bigger corruption scandal, russian investigation and similar events then some of them are so you have to explain clearly where you basically just come up with one thingHAYES: Yes.
This is especially the case in Russia.
Williams: very confusing.
So I think the argument in this article is that if you can figure out that they're fraudulent, they're corrupt, they're stealing our money, right, that's-that's why I don't think you see a lot of candidates using this approach across the country in their area, because you have to be down-to-earth.
They're stealing money.
You know, the money comes from you, from us as taxpayers, and that's what you need to get in touch with, because things in Russia, again, are complicated for these things, even with Kushner and everything tied up.
You have to explain it again.
Hayes: It's complicated.
Williams: If you have the basic knowledge.
Hayes: That's why Tom Price.
Now, this is a simple story.
Like, oh, you spent $100,000 on a private flight for yourself. BARRO: Right.
It is clear that the White House thinks these stories are important because it is reported that it took a long time for the president to criticize Tom Price when he fired him.
Hayes: or Ben Carson's $31,000 plate.
Like . . . . . . Barrow: Yes.
The White House reacted to the scandal.
When they-someone can consume like Tom Price, people are fired for these scandals.
So, I think, you know, it's interesting that something that came out of the survey and the news about the Seychelles meeting, what exactly are they talking about, you can imagine a scandal like this would be much simpler than Russia.
The other thing is, you know, part of the reason that makes me think that the Russian scandal has a bad connection with people is that most voters simply don't have a strong view of the interests of abstract foreign policy. If the idea is.
Hayes: as I don't know, should we be sanctioned for Crimea?
Yes, not many people in Russia feel that they have lost something special because they were not involved in Russian policy in the first place. CONFESSORE: OK.
I think Americans usually think about corruption on a macro level, right? the system is rigged, or Wall Street is, right.
This is to reduce it to the scale of human beings.
So the finance minister flew down to watch the eclipse, and his wife was Mary Antoinette, or did these different people in the cabinet have security guards or expensive furniture?
People can understand this.
Interestingly, it is too small, not just it is very small, it is very small.
Hayes: The smaller the better.
Confessor: it came from the top.
This is the key.
Wimbledon tickets.
Hayes: Wimbledon tickets for Minister of Veterans Affairs David schurkin.
I think it's small and important because it's tangible and worth $31,000.
You can-and the fact is that the moral message is sent from the top.
I mean, one of the great things that happened to you today is that there is something called the Hatch Act.
It is an important piece of legislation that seeks to establish a church-state separation between official government duties and politics.
This is a tricky thing at the White House.
You know, to some extent, everyone in the White House is constantly engaged in political work.
But Kellyanne Conway aired on television as her official, basically supporting the accused child, Roy Moore.
This watchdog lawyer, called the Office of the special counsel, said today that you violated the Hatch bill twice.
The White House said yes. WILLIAMS: Yeah.
This is . . . . . . Hayes: That's the information.
Williams: Yes.
In any case, I never understood why-I mean, as a strategist, I kind of understand why you need to be in close contact with Kelly.
But I don't know why they don't leave her on the political stage in this way.
But this is another story about mismanagement and corruption.
But even if Democrats or others try to use it is dangerous because it is considered dangerous in this way.
Hayes: no one runs out in any area.
Charming.
No one is running on it.
Williams: It's just another thing because they keep attacking them.
I can't believe that either.
Right, then it becomes something that the media is spinning.
There are other things every day, not tangible things you can say, no, this person is actually bad at managing the country and corruption.
BARRO: so try to explain to voters what the issue with the Hatch bill is, and that's something someone in the White House has done politically.
Hayes: Yes, that's right.
BARRO: While the Hatch Act is a law, it is fundamentally a norm.
I mean, the punishment is that the person in charge of your agency decides how to punish you.
They can fire you.
They can reprimand you.
The head of the White House is the president.
So the law only means that the president cares about what it means.
So, it has no teeth.
This is not one of the main atrocities of the White House.
Because, as you said, it's a thin line.
Hayes: No, but it's symbolic to me, you understand, you understand why you're getting bigger and bigger licenses in this environment.
Thank you all. I'm Joy Williams, Jose Barro and Nick Confessore.
Still, the first mid-season of the Trump era begins tonight.
Democrats have always regarded Texas as a state that needs to change.
Will this really happen?
I will talk to the people who are ready to face Senator Ted Cruz in front.
Also, the first thing tonight, the second thing is a bit confusing on the nuclear level. (
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Hayes: First of all, President Trump has often called on the state to renew its nuclear arsenal. (
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Trump: We have to modernize and rebuild our nuclear arsenal in the hope that it will never have to be used, but that it will be so strong and so strong that it will stop any acts of aggression. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: in fact, a week after becoming president, Trump ordered the Department of Defense to conduct a new nuclear posture assessment detailing how safe and effective our nuclear arsenal is.
The comment was released this week.
One obvious problem is that at least one person received a hard copy that looked like this and all the pages on the cover were reversed.
This is Hans Christian (ph)
The director of the nuclear information program of the American Federation of Scientists, the outstanding government document on American nuclear weapons is not a good search, but a good news, and other recipients seem to have received copies of them as well, including NBC News that received the correct copy.
So, it just seems like a simple print error.
In addition, if the president confuses North Korea with South Korea, it may make a more serious mistake.
It's the second one in 60 seconds. (
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Hayes: President Trump is cautiously optimistic today about reports that North Korea is willing to hold nuclear talks. (
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Hayes: I think their statements and those from South Korea and North Korea are very positive.
This is a great thing for the world and a great thing for the world.
So we will tell her how everything happened. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: Another good news is that the president did not mix North Korea with South Korea.
At the dirty dinner on Saturday night, the president seemed to say that he had actually received a call from North Korea to quote this sentence, which is a sad, if true, "they called a few days ago and said we wanted to talk and I said we wanted to talk too but you have to say no
You have to admit it.
But an unnamed National Security Council official told South Korea's Yonhap news agency that President Trump had not spoken to North Korea.
The official said Trump was referring to a phone call with the South Korean president on March 1.
It's no big deal, just using nuclear weapons to confuse North Korea's rival country with North Korea, its close ally who just hosted the Olympics.
But no one says nuclear diplomacy is easy. (
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Unidentified male: Do you think North Korea's recent willingness to speak is sincere, or is it to buy time for their nuclear program?
What contribution do you make to the recent public conversation? TRUMP: Ne.
No, I don't think anyone knows. (END VIDEO CLIP)(
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Who made history?
We made history.
Who made history?
We made history.
Who made history?
We made history. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: The longest strike in West Virginia's history is over.
The governor signed a bill today to give teachers and all state workers a 5% increase, and a 5% increase is part of the teacher's agreement with the governor last week, but after the agreement, the teachers still insist on strike, because they don't believe that the Republican-controlled Legislature will actually pass the agreement.
It turned out to be a perfectly reasonable concern when the state Senate initially refused and passed only a 4% raise earlier this week.
Even though Republicans received a 5% raise today, they said it would have to be paid through painful cuts elsewhere.
One senator suggested that while Medicaid would not be included in this bill, Medicaid would be one of them.
However, today is a great success for teachers in West Virginia.
They went on strike and demanded satisfaction.
This is something that might give ideas to other low-income teachers, such as, oh, say, teachers in Oklahoma have not had a raise for ten years, and their wages are the lowest in the country.
Some of them even teach in dozens of schools across the state, which are reduced to four days a week.
Now many teachers are saying that they will follow in the footsteps of West Virginia teachers.
We will continue to follow the story. (
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Hayes: The 2018 midterm elections have officially begun.
Just less than an hour ago, the Texas primary began to end, although today's vote is still in the statistics, early voting shows that in the 15 largest counties in Texas, democratic voters increased by 105% over 2014, while Republican voters increased by 15%, that means Democrats may really have a chance to elect their own office to Texas for the first time in a generation.
One of the important seats they are concerned about belongs to Republican Senator Ted Cruz.
He is likely to face 45-year-old Democratic challenger o'lock. year-
On November, the old congressman of El Paso.
O'lock is with me tonight.
Ted Cruz said something to you tonight and I want to read it to you and listen to your reaction.
He said you, member Orlock is a Liberal Democrat on the left.
He runs across the state like Bernie Sanders, and voters in Texas will decide which policies and values reflect their own.
Are you a liberal Democrat on the left? REP.
Before o'lock,D)
Texas: You know, I'm the one who did my best to represent my constituents in El Paso, and now I'm trying to represent 28 million people in Texas.
I'm going to every place in the state.
I have been to 226 counties so far, and there are people everywhere in Lufkin, Houston, Austin and Woodville, Amarillo.
Everyone should be listened, listened and fought.
I'm not asking about the identity of the party, I'm talking about what people are bringing up in these town halls, making sure everyone can see a doctor, not a function of luck or the environment, but something they can rely on, so that they are healthy enough to go to school, to work, to start a business, to write a novel or whatever they are interested in life to ensure that everyone is educated, trained and certified, to get a job that pays more than living wages in Texas, and to make sure that our state defines the country of immigration, the country that leads the country forward, not just the wall,, make sure we make the most of everyone who works in our community today.
Are you against this wall? O`ROURKE: I do.
There is no point in recording, safety and security.
Any wall that will be built in Texas will be built on the land of ranchers, farmers and private owners.
We will have to take this land from the Texans with the right to requisition, build a wall, cost $30 billion, and we will be of no use.
Hayes: You know, it's fun for me.
According to the Texas political program, the president's approval rating in Texas is 46%, a great state polling agency.
I think it's lower than I thought.
Why-what do you think of the president's current reputation in your hometown?
Orlock: I don't know, but what I heard while traveling in Texas was that we no longer wanted fear, triviality or division.
We want to move forward on big things.
We want to start from the state with the lowest level of health insurance, more than 4 million Texans can't see a doctor and can't make sure everyone can see a doctor.
We want to be the leading nation on immigration and we want to bring our democracy back to its roots and to the people.
So, it's a campaign that doesn't charge PAC funds, doesn't charge NRA or any other person's special interest donations, it's not just the right way to do things, it's a successful strategy.
These are the things that the Texans are excited about right now, whether it's Ted Cruz or Donald Trump, not so opposed to anyone, more for what we want to achieve.
Hayes: Do you think the politicians who took the NRA money were contaminated?
O'Rourke: I know, because it makes people want to know who the head of that office is working.
Are they working for NRA?
You know, if you were Ted Cruz and received over $300,000 from NRA in2016, then, someone in Texas wants to know if you are working for the NRA or the people of Texas is forgiven.
When we don't get a penny from NRA or any political action committee, any company, any special interest agency, people in Texas know that I only work for people in Texas.
Hayes: Let me ask you, during the last governor campaign, Wendy Davis, head of Blue, statewide office, Democratic Office, Texas, was filled with hope.
It has been very hard.
What Ted Cruz has to do is clear.
He would say this guy is a Democrat.
He`s a liberal.
We don't like this in Texas.
You don't want to vote for him.
Such information will be knocked over and over again.
This information is very effective.
For example, the first few rounds of statewide candidates get kicked in every two years, what did they do wrong?
Why is it different this time?
Orlock: two weeks ago, we just left a town hall in Wichita Falls for a night at the Spur hotel in Spur City.
I was walking across the street the next morning and had a town hall in Mayne (ph)
Restaurants in the city of archers.
Someone stopped me on the way in and took a black and white photo of the LBJ campaign in Archer City on 1948.
This guy said it was 70 years ago, the last time we saw a Senate candidate campaign on either side here.
I heard it in Ragland.
I heard it in Woodville.
I heard it in Coleman.
I heard it all over Texas.
They did not see anyone.
So if you don't show up and you don't listen and you don't fight for these people, then why would they vote for you?
This also applies to places like Houston or the cashmere garden in area 5.
Every place in Texas is worth listening, listening, and fighting for, and that's why I'm in every place in Texas.
I don't know that we have seen such sports in Texas, at least in my lifetime.
Hayes: OK, Congressman Beto o'lock, thank you for taking the time tonight.
The last big news tonight is that you can now see my new book, colony of a country, in paperback.
Later, Donald Trump's remarks about law and order changed a lot.
You definitely want to check out if I say it myself.
I think it's worth reading.
It's here tonight.
Rachel Mado's show is now on.
Good evening, Rachel.
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