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Show: All Chris HAYESDate: guest of January 5, 2016: Chris Murphy, Burgess Cornell baocui Park, Nina Turner, Dean Bai (Start Video)
Chris Hayes, MSNBC host (voice-over)
S. President Barack Obama tonight: Gun lobby groups may hold Congress hostage, but they can't hold America hostage.
Hayes: President Obama is calling for action on gun violence.
Obama: I get angry whenever I think of those kids.
Hayes: but in the election year, will the fight over gun laws cost Democrats?
In addition, foreseeable anger. SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R-FL)
Presidential candidate: He is obsessed with breaking the Second Amendment.
Hayes: I'm going to talk to Texas Congressman Michael Burgess, who says the president's actions are not constitutional.
Then, Donald Trump declined to say what he would do as president. DONALD TRUMP (R)
Presidential candidate: voters want to see predictability.
As one of America's closest allies, Hayes is considering refusing Trump to enter the United States.
I will talk to Bernie Sanders about his bold commitment to the big banks on Wall Street. SEN.
Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
Presidential candidate: My government will break these institutions within a year.
Hayes: everything is starting now. (END VIDEOTAPE)
Hayes: good evening in New York.
I'm Chris Hayes.
Today, President Obama said he would open a new controversial and politically risky fight on gun laws, a proposal that is both frustrating and ambitious.
The president spoke in the East Hall of the White House, surrounded by family members and other advocates of gun violence victims, announcing a series of administrative actions, including measures to expand background checks.
Its scope and impact may be minimal.
More about this.
What's more important today is that the president announced this. -
As agendist (ph)
He is eager to start fighting in the last year of his term, politics on the issue and the traditional wisdom of the very powerful gun lobby and gun rights maximizers in Congress.
It was a battle, apparently from his personal emotional place when he mentioned the massacre of children at Sandy Hook Elementary School. (
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Obama: a first-year student from Newtown, a first-year student, from every family that never imagined that their loved one would be taken away from our lives by bullets in the gun-every time I think of these children, I get angry.
By the way, it happens every day on the streets of Chicago. (APPLAUSE)
So all of us need to ask Congress to have enough courage to fight the lies of the gun lobby, and all of us need to stand up and protect their citizens.
All of us need to ask governors, legislators and businesses to do their part to make our community safer. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: The president admits that no real progress will be made unless Congress takes action without restrictions from gun lobby groups. (
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Obama: Gun lobby groups may now take Congress hostage, but they can't take America hostage.
We do not have to accept that this slaughter is the price of freedom. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: The president has clearly defined the battle as a battle that will take years or even decades to continue. (
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Obama: This will not happen during Congress.
This will not happen during my presidency.
But many things are not done overnight.
Women's voting rights are not realized overnight.
Liberation of Africa
Americans don't happen overnight.
This has been a work for decades. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: Although measures such as federal background checks are widely supported by the public, the president's actions today seem to have no political benefit for himself and his potential Democratic successor.
Including Hillary Clinton's speech in Iowa today, the candidates did welcome it. (
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Hillary Clinton (D)
Presidential candidate: I know that as a country, we are smart enough to protect the rights of responsible gun owners in accordance with our Constitution and to take more measures to prevent guns from falling into the hands of repeat offenders, fugitives, stalkers and potential terrorists. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: Republican presidential candidates have responded, and many even today have made some wrong comments about how the president is targeting law-abiding citizens. (
Start Video Editing)SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX)
Presidential candidate: this is the most
Gun management in our history.
It is a government that targets law-abiding citizens, not criminals, not terrorists.
Rubio: He's obsessed with breaking the Second Amendment.
He is obsessed with increasing the burden on law-abiding citizens, who will abide by the law no matter what. JEB BUSH (R)
Presidential candidate: I think the impulse of the left always puts more restrictions on law-abiding gun owners.
This does not solve these problems, these tragedies.
Public cases that have already occurred, we have seen violence, and the media are concerned about it. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: Despite the allegations, the actual administrative action announced today focuses on mental health, gun safety technology, and most prominently on background checks, including the new rules of the ATF, the rule is intended to expand sellers who have to do inspections to potentially include gun sellers on the Internet and possibly narrow the so-called
Known as a gun show loophole
But as always, when any kind of gun safety measure is put forward, today can be a great day for gun manufacturers, with another surge in gun sales, what is relevant to the actions expected today may be those who claim to have guns from the first day of this administration, and the president is here to take them.
Then, whenever another marginal measure is proposed, people say "I told you ".
Today is a happy day for them.
Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut is joining me now.
Senator, I would like to argue with you about what is going on today.
You tell me why I was wrong.
This is-this is a situation where there is no benefit.
The Real thing today is the very small beer that the president himself admits.
From an administrative point of view, this is something he can do within the law, and it will also alienate people who don't like presidential gun politics.
So, what happened today?
Why are you taking a positive step forward in your mind today? SEN. CHRIS MURPHY (D)
So today is a good day for two reasons.
Because I think there's real material here.
Gun sales have moved from physical stores to the Internet and these gun shows.
In general, those who sell online and at gun shows just assume that they are not bound by the law that requires commercial sellers to conduct background checks.
So this new guidance has now been provided and few sellers do so online or in these guns, I think you will see a group of sellers being sued for the first time for fear of not complying with criminal background check laws, so I think you will see thousands of new sales being subject to background check, this will save lives.
Second, this is an important signal to those of us who work every day in the trenches to fight gun violence, and the president will be committed to building this campaign for months over the next 12 years
In the first week of 2016, he was focusing on the issue.
Hillary Clinton has made it a signature issue in her campaign.
So, I think this is a very, very important moment.
The signal to all of us and all grassroots activists is that this president and I think our future president will hold this position for a long time.
This is what every great movement of change needs.
Every great movement of change is defined by early failures, but in the end, the work is done.
Is this amazing? This is his last year.
He is discussing his final State of the Union address.
This is a political struggle that he has shown very openly and very effectively today.
I mean, all the evening news shows will be on here tonight.
This is what happened this year, are you surprised?
Murphy: No, it's not surprising to me in a way, because I know how touched the president is on this issue.
I saw this the day he walked into Sandy Hook high school and told us all that Sandy Hook murder was the worst day of his presidency that day.
I know he went to San Bernardino before he was on vacation and spent three hours with those families.
The stories touched him because they should move every elected official.
I think his input in this area is bigger than any other problem.
So, no, I don't think that's surprising.
I think you will see him coming back to this question over and over again.
There is another reason, which is not surprising, because I really think that in the context of the general election, it is a political asset for those who line up with him.
Republicans may get some purchases in the Republican presidential primary, but in the end, I think election voters will increasingly focus on the candidate's position in the background check when voting.
I think that's what he understands.
Hayes: Do you really think this is an election year issue for this year?
I mean, before the assembly, there were some people who thought the show, and even Jonathan Alter ended up telling me when we were talking about the politics of the show, and it didn't start until the assembly.
But it won't have much impact in the general election.
Murphy: I'm starting to see a number of district polls showing that the issue, particularly the one that supports background checks, is very prominent among the swing voters.
I think that some of the issues that have split the sides since the last few weeks, especially the issue of preventing terrorists from getting guns, will be the ballot box issue.
Protecting the country from terrorist attacks is a concern.
They said at a speed of 90 to 10 that they wanted more background checks.
When these two questions are combined, I think you have a significant understanding of the ballot box that might actually worktime this fall.
Hayes: Okay.
Senator Chris Murphy, thank you very much.
Thanks Chris.
Hayes: Joan Walsh, national affairs correspondent at national magazine and political analyst at MSNBC, is with me now.
Political analyst at MSNBC, former governor of Vermont and former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Howard Dean.
Howard, let me start with you, as a political figure in Vermont, gun politics is very different from Gun politics in Washington, D. C. C.
Or in Chicago in the South, Chicago on behalf of the President, what do you think of today?
Howard Dean, political analyst at MSNBC: I think-I agree with Chris Murphy.
I thought he was done.
I think this is a big issue in the general election because it depicts Republicans or Republicans who portray themselves as ruthless.
You have to say relentlessly that when you think that the victims of Sandy Hook are 6, 8, 5 years old, we should not make any changes. This is a no-win issue.
They're going to kill it in the primary, and everything that those Republican candidates say will be on TV commercials in general elections in places like Michigan and Ohio, not to mention Connecticut, I just think it's wise politics and it's clear that President Obama's feelings are very deep and you rarely see the excitement of Obama.
I think what we saw just now is a very strong picture.
Hayes: Joan, you know, the president has been talking about one thing, and I 've seen a lot of talk about liberals, and I think it's a bit misleading to talk about gun lobbying.
Joan Walsh, political analyst at MSNBC: Yes.
Hayes: NRA is a very effective organization. It`s very well-funded.
It's complicated.
Well organizedWALSH: Sure.
Hayes: but its strength is largely because millions of people really care about it. WALSH: Sure.
Hayes: I mean, they like their guns, and they really-and also think that Barack Obama is essentially here to undermine American privacy.
Walsh: there are millions of people.
This is true. they got support in the ballot box.
They are the minority of gun owners and the minority of Americans.
I mean, we know there are more than 0. 3 billion guns in this country, almost as many as people.
But Chris, only one of the three Americans has guns.
Even most gun owners support background checks and closing gun display bugs.
The president is right.
I hope Governor Dean is right.
I think there is a risk in the 2016 election, but I think in the future, politics is really good for Democrats because it has become a red/blue issue.
Your average gun owner is 55-year-
Old white men with high school education.
He is a voter of Donald Trump.
He's already a Republican.
Blue State, rising Obama votersgun control.
This will be important over time.
In Pennsylvania, Colorado and Ohio, Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton could be in danger.
I am not going to deny that.
Yes, the interesting thing is that Joan makes a lot of sense, right?
American politics has a huge ranking on every issue, right?
Where is it-the sort is done like this, the sort will happen, the problem will appear later, right?
So, people don't classify because they have this problem.
They will sort according to where they live, what their world view is, what their religious beliefs are, their practices, their habits, and their friends.
This is the source of politics.
In such a universe, Howard, perhaps those who were particularly afraid of the swing of Democrats, did not exist in their early 90 s.
Well, they do exist.
I will tell you where they are.
Joan just mentioned a few of them.
First, the County of Philadelphia is a Republican.
Republican women in Philadelphia County
They don't like NRA or guns.
I can see Republican women voting in droves for Hillary Clinton or Bernie, and if he wins on the issue, because from now to their convention, the Republican candidate will say a lot that will cause them a lot of trouble in the fall.
Colorado is another.
Two Democratic senators were fired for strengthening gun control laws.
Now independent voters in Colorado and Colorado are opposed to the practice, and they want more control to help gun safety.
So, I think this is a problem.
I think there are swing voters.
I don't think the public is as polarized as Washington.
I think it's a question that moved the voters because it's about the children and they can see this happening with their children, as Barack Obama said on your tape a few minutes ago.
Hayes: Joan, I 've always thought that NRA is a bit like Donald Trump, and I 've been waiting to bounce back like when they're going too far, like when the rubber bands are coming back, it never played.
What Wayne LaPierre said was completely beyond the pale of all the other American public discourse, and then he was there. WALSH: I know.
I want to say that my opinion of Donald Trump is correct because I have never refused him and said that it will kill him.
After Sandy Hook, I was wrong about the NRA.
We all watched the press conference.
We all watched the press conference. He is self-destructive.
This is the train wreck.
The American people saw these madmen.
Hayes: they will refuse. WALSH: Right.
But they don't.
Dean: I would like to add that although this has to do with the lack of courage of those who oppose gun lobbying.
Michael Bloomberg has done a lot of work for people who are fighting gun lobby groups.
After Sandy Hook, those people don't exist.
There are very few politicians standing up.
What they are afraid of NRA is attacking the ads and the lies they tell people to believe.
At this point, I think we may have passed.
Walsh: Governor Dean, I don't know if we passed, but we have arrived.
That's why I want to go back to what Senator Murphy said very quickly.
Sports need victory.
This is a victory.
Winning is contagious.
We say it's contagious to play baseball.
It feels good for the movement, and I think-Hayes: Yes, the president who is the leader of the movement is a very interesting role.
Thank you, Joan Walsh and Howard Dean.
Thank you. thank you.
Hayes: in criticizing Obama's executive actions, the issue of the Second Amendment being invoked by Republicans remains.
Also, Ben Carson seems lost as the Republican presidential candidate focuses on Iowa and New Hampshire.
Where did he end last night?
Bernie Sanders later warned Wall Street.
I will ask him how realistic his plan is.
These stories and more future. (
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Hayes: three days after the armed rebellion
The local sheriff says government protesters have taken control of a federal building in the Oregon wildlife sanctuary and are taking steps to end the occupation of an Oregon newspaper by militants, "something is being done.
The public can't see it.
Meanwhile, schools in the area closed for the second consecutive day.
Militants who seized the building in the name of two local ranchers were arrested on arson charges, saying they would not leave until local residents controlled thousands of acres of federal land.
Nevertheless, yesterday they urged supporters to send snacks because they did not pack enough snacks. (
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Hayes: today's Republican response to President Obama's attempt to evade congressional gun safety measures seems to suggest that this is an act of aggression against the Second Amendment.
For example, House Speaker Paul Ryan issued a statement in part quoting "whatever President Obama says, his words will not exceed the Second Amendment.
Presidential candidate Jeb Bush seems to have responded to the comments, he wrote in a column
Citing ed, "Obama's announcement that he will implement the Firearms Control agenda through executive orders shows that he is completely ignoring the second amendment, as well as the appropriate constitutional process for making laws in our country.
But in today's speech, Obama seemed to have hinted at the stupidity of these complaints. (
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US President Barack Obama: I believe in the Second Amendment, which is written on paper.
It guarantees the right to carry weapons.
No matter how many times people try to turn my words around, I teach the Constitution.
I know a little about this. (
Laughter and applause)I get it.
But I also believe that, under the Second Amendment, we can find ways to reduce gun violence. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: in fact, to clarify the president's point of reducing gun violence while maintaining consistency with the Second Amendment, it would be useful to look at the Supreme Court's decision on the meaning of the amendment.
Even if the court discovered the right of individuals to carry weapons in 2008C.
For the Heller case, we should note, for the first time, that throughout the entire history of the court, it also states that the reference "Like most rights, the rights of the Second Amendment are not unlimited.
It is not a right to retain and carry any weapon in any way for whatever purpose.
In other words, the regulations that led to changes in gun safety policy are not constitutional violations at least in the eyes of the conservative majority of the country's Supreme Court.
Texas Republican MP Michael Burgess is now with me, and his statement today on the president's executive action on gun control is partly quoted by him, "The Americans should have a leader, he does not see the Constitution as a suggestion of the model that our government should have.
"Congressman, I understand that you don't think the move here is constitutional, isn't it because it violates the Second Amendment?
Or do you think it violated the Second Amendment as well? REP.
Michael BurgessR)
TEXAS: Well, as you will remember, I made my argument in the first and second article of this article.
First, management-Hayes: of course.
Burgess:-dealing with Congress.
We have the power to make laws.
The president, who is the chief executive, is the executor of these laws, but he is not the maker of them.
Of course, this is the country that exists in the monarchy.
We made it clear that we did not want to do so. HAYES: Right.
But every president has all sorts of administrative actions, right?
President George w. Bush
In fact, if I'm not mistaken, Bush took a whole bunch, more than President Obama.
Just like there are enough staff available 24 hours a day to deal with the background investigation hotline-do you think this is the repeal of the Constitution?
Burgess: Look, when people see the government's actions in this regard, I think it could be one of the frustrating things, first, the first two years of President Obama's administration, republicans have little to stop.
So, if this is one of the most important things for him, it will basically take a week out of the first two years of his first term.
So why is this not happening, I can't assume one reason.
But what I'm going to tell you is-Hayes: Probably the biggest financial crisis in 80 years. But continue.
Burgess: but on the other hand, we don't even have the director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
Yes, because Republicans have been blocking him in the Senate.
Burgess: It's not true.
Hayes: It's true.
Burgess: This is because the former director resigned.
I don't know if the president can find anyone who wants the job.
I want to know why.
Burgess:-I suggest the President fill this position first.
Hayes: that's understandable.
Burgess: there is a reason for the Senate's advice and consent.
Hayes: I just wanted to-but I want to zero here.
Just to be specific.
I mean, there are more than 200 employees joining this hotline within 24 hours, right?
Is this the repeal of the Constitution?
Is this essentially a violation of the constitutional privilege of Congress?
Burgess: Well, it's not from Congress. it's clear that Congress has to authorize and approve these funds-Hayes: funds.
BURGESS:-funds to hire these people.
Therefore, no, this is not repeal under Article 1 or Article 2. HAYES: OK.
I asked you this.
You are from a state that has just launched a fairly broad public-carrying legislation this year.
There's a long gun in Texas.
Now there is a handle gun open to carry.
If I'm not mistaken, there's also something to carry with you in Austin's Texas capital.
Do you think this is a good idea in America? S. Capitol?
I mean, my understanding is that gun advocates think guns will make space safer.
Should we just throw away the metal detector and bring a gun in the Capitol?
Burgess: of course, we can discuss it.
I just pointed out that while Texas is now an open state, it's one of the few states that don't have it-Hayes: Yes.
Hayes: No, but I-Burgess:-I mean, it really goes back to the time of reconstruction.
Hayes: I'm curious-Burgess: So is it appropriate for Texas to move this forward? I think so.
Hayes: but I'm personally curious. You go to work in that building every day.
Would you feel safer if Congressman Michael Burgess got rid of the metal detector and let people enter Congress with their side arms?
Burgess: I don't know it will have a big impact on me.
In fact, you don't know what you're doing when I get into any public place.
So will you support it?
Burgess: generally, do I feel safe when I walk into a public place without a metal detector?
The answer is, of course I do.
But will you support this in Congress?
Will you support people bringing weapons into the Capitol?
Look, I think all this can be part of the discussion.
If that's the direction people want to go in, I think that's what's needed-it should be heard.
But the bigger problem today is, Chris.
I mean, the president made these suggestions.
I mean on the hole in the gun show, do you really understand what he's talking about?
There is no prohibition on the number of sales, and there is no limit on the number of sales or the frequency of sales?
Only when you have a business card?
I mean, how can we-what does that mean when he says he's closed the gun display bug now?
I don't think-I don't think many people know what the president is talking about.
Hayes: I think it will play a role in the regulatory process.
It will also be interesting to see if the legislation is adopted, which will also be resolved.
Texas Congressman Michael Burgess-thank you so much.
Thank you, Chris.
Hayes: Next, which country is the official real demand to ban Donald Trump from entering? That`s next. (
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Fox News Bill O'Reilly: you'll give up trading if you're elected president but you don't like trading.
Are you bombing their nuclear facilities?
Are you going to do this?
I'm going to do the right thing, Bill.
I want to be unpredictable.
I won't tell you what I'm going to do now.
O'REILLY: But don't voters have the right to know how far you're going to go?
No, because it depends on the circumstances.
But voters want to see predictability.
They are tired of a president who stands up and says everything. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: Last night, Donald Trump hinted at a nuclear game on Fox News that he said he would not explain his Iranian policy, because what voters want is someone who doesn't say what they will do.
One thing that few people have predicted is that with only 27 days from the Iowa caucus, Donald Trump will still continue to maintain his position as the Republican front line --
Despite a series of antics, insults and what some call quasi-
The Fascist policy proposal that prompted experts to repeatedly predict that he would eventually disappear.
According to a new NBC News/Survey Monkey national poll, Trump received 35% of the support, and Ted Cruz, who won the second place, almost doubled the support rate, nearly 30 age points higher than the fifth Jeb Bush, who received nearly $50 million in advertising support.
Trump's supporters also seem to be the strongest.
51% said they would definitely vote for him, much higher than his closest rivals Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio.
Last night, Trump showed his support at a rally in Massachusetts. Despite the cold weather, thousands of people gathered to cheer for the candidate, waving and shouting to a series of protesters.
Now, it's not all good news for Donald, at least if he wants to continue traveling around the world.
British lawmakers today announced they would debate whether Trump's comments on Muslims would ban him from leaving the UK.
After more than 500,000 people signed a petition calling for Trump to be denied entry.
Last month, British Prime Minister David Cameron said he would unite the country if Trump did show up. (
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British Prime Minister David Cameron: I think his remarks are divided, stupid and wrong.
I think if he comes to visit our country, I think it will unite us against him. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: Thank goodness that relationship between Trump and Putin.
I heard that Moscow is very good at this time of year.
Today, Trump is not there for President Obama. But in rival Ted Cruz, who told The Washington Post that Cruz's Canadian birthplace is a very dangerous issue, he could become vulnerable if the senator became the Republican nominee.
Cruz responded that it was true, by posting a YouTube video of Fonzie actually skipping shark pop culture, mentioning great things like Happy Days, or in this case, I think the quality of the Trump campaign has declined after a novel stunt.
Front line-
Runner Ben Carson ran on the varanzano Bridge yesterday.
I will explain it next time. (
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Hayes: In the last few days, dozens and dozens of campaigns in 2016, many of which happened where we were in a meaningful place during the campaign season.
Potential Iowa caucus members accepted the coffee of John Kasich's event at the inspired venue Cafe in West Des Moines, while Chris Christie held the New Hampshire at the flatla Italian restaurant in Manchester
Hillary Clinton has been criss-crossed in Iowa over the past few days, while Carl Fiorina opened in New Hampshire.
Needless to say, some people were a little confused about the location of the latest Ben Carson event last night at Hilton Garden Inn Staten Island, NY, of course, in the national nomination contest held three months after the Iowa caucus meeting, the 37-year-old Pride House.
Obviously, voters on Staten Island are calling for Carson.
A volunteer who marked the event on site stood in the room just because people heard the person.
Carson himself explained to a local news media that Staten Island is a cool place.
To be sure, this is just the latest move in a movement that has been hard to predict from the start.
Carson's campaign ended with a 2015 approval rating and polls dropped sharply. three senior staff members, including campaign managers, resigned in the campaign, after the candidate himself publicly hinted at changes in staff --up days before.
But if there is one thing that is consistent with the Ben Carson movement, it is that it raises a lot of money and spends a lot of money mainly to raise money.
The Carson campaign raised nearly $21 million in the third quarter of last year, spending just over $14 million.
Now that the campaign is spending money to get the president elected, it's not entirely clear what the Carson campaign is doing.
What we should focus on is not what they call burn rates in sports, but where sports spend money.
The Carson campaign told NBC News that more than $14 million of the $11 million spent on funding --raising.
As The Atlantic pointed out at the time, Carson spent $3 million on other things, from field staff to travel, all of which were needed to build the campaign infrastructure and strategy.
Last week, the campaign announced another huge effort, with revenues of $23 million in the fourth quarter.
We don't yet know how much the campaign spent in the fourth quarter, and more importantly, whether it spent less money on the fund.
Raise more money to get Ben Carson elected.
Now join me in the Carson campaign with Dean Parker, senior advisor.
Nice to meet you, Dean.
Thank you for joining me.
Dean Parker, Ben Carson consultant: Thank you for inviting me, Chris.
Hayes: So, over the past week, I 've received an email from two different Republican advisers who basically said there was no progress in Carson's campaign.
This is what people say.
This is grift, a consultant who raised money from small dollar donors.
Ben Carson is a beloved figure, attractive and profitable.
And then, the people who were hired to do the fund got out of the door.
Raise and mail.
When you see these numbers, I mean, it costs $14 million and $11 million on the fund --
Improve, there are no other sports in this area with such figures.
You have to remember a few things. Number one, Dr.
Carson has no political fundraising list.
We started the campaign without donors on the list.
So that's the first reason why a traditional political candidate can say they're a little different.
Second, when you go, it is the people in the position of experts who charge so much money that they have the opportunity to talk to voters who want to talk to us.
So they just put the money back in their pocket and talk back to you.
Third, people are interested in raising money.
They are interested in giving the doctor.
Carson, so as we go through this process, we continue to do what we need to do, which gives voters who are aligned with us, we now have a strong list and a strong mail.
You have to remember that if you look at the end of the third quarter, we ended the campaign with just as much (if not more), with $11 million in funding in the bank, more than any other campaign. HAYES: Right.
About half of them have been burned, according to the Federal Trade Commission.
My question is, in the fourth quarter, will we see a ratio that looks like the $14 million we saw in the third quarter? Of that, $11 million was spent on fund-raising.
When we say $11 million in fundraising, let's be clear about the contract with the consultant who is raising money.
Parker: No, this is a contract with people who have to give us the list and we have to buy the ability to get the donor. Number one.
So there is a big misnomer about what happened.
Secondly, if you look at our employees and their spending, they are lower than the industry average because
Carson is not suitable to work under the traditional political system.
Hayes: Let me talk about the mail.
Nice to meet you.
Hayes: I 've seen a lot of people, including a Democrat I know who is registered in Massachusetts, a reliable free voter, and a huge Ben Carson Meller in Massachusetts, okay.
Ben Carson got a portrait of this guy's stone prints.
It's right there.
For those who work in the campaign, it's an expensive email.
It looks like a mail consultant to me, basically trying to figure out the most expensive mail they can find and send it anywhere so they can make a lot of money out of it.
This is totally fake.
At the end of the day, the people who entered our list came in because they recognized him.
They sign up for support, or they sign up for a similar value system that allows us to look for their potential customers.
Our direct mail is Dr.
Carson's closest friend
He's a consultant.
He did 100% of this to help Ben get elected and he didn't focus on making money.
If you look at what he actually gets, this is a small part of the number you expect.
Hayes: Isn't this guy going to get rich from this?
No, not at all.
Hayes: Then let me ask you why if things go well. up?
Parker: Let's think so.
Have you seen baseball? HAYES: Yes.
Parker: If you watch baseball, you will understand that there are different pitchers in different parts of the game.
We have a team inside.
Doctor, there are some things.
Carson wants to change.
He met with the team.
Hayes: they brought the middle relief.
Parker: Maybe it's not the right thing to continue from this perspective. So Dr.
Carson, let's move on kindly.
He handled the matter with great respect.
He handled the matter as you should have done as a presidential candidate.
Then he moved forward and put some people in place.
You have to remember that the person he keeps in the organization is still in the organization before starting: General Bob Diz is the chairman, apparently Ed Brook (ph)
Our campaign manager.
Hayes: OK, we will keep an eye on the Federal Trade Commission papers for the fourth quarter.
I really appreciate you coming in.
I appreciate you having us.
Hayes: Thank you very much.
Well, Bernie Snyder needs to continue his campaign.
How he is doing. (
Business break)
Hayes: Well, see, House Republicans are ready to provide relief to Volkswagen, the world's second-largest car company.
A bill introduced in April called the FAIR Act in class action is expected to be voted through this week, which will prevent thousands of Volkswagen owners from suing the company.
The House vote will take place in a few days. S.
The Justice Department has announced the prosecution of the public for alleged violations of the Clean Air Act, and remember that as early as September, the public admitted to installing software on thousands of diesel cars to systematically lie and cheat emissions tests?
Volkswagen owners think they do some good things for the environment by driving low-pollution cars, and they find that they do the opposite.
The public will face billions of dollars in fines.
But so far, no one in Germany has faced any charges over the scandal.
If Republicans in Congress had their way, public car owners would not have gotten any justice. (
Business break)
Hayes: Today, Bernie Sanders took a break from the campaign in Iowa and New Hampshire to send a message to Wall Street.
He spoke directly to financial workers and promised that if he was elected president, he would dissolve the big bank within the first year. (
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SANDERS: I will keep a New Year resolution if elected president, that is, if Wall Street does not end its greed, we will end it for them. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: A few hours after his speech, I asked the senator from Vermont for details of his plan. (Start Video)
Sanders: We already have legislation, and I think we can do a lot of things through executive power, but, basically, ask the Treasury to give us a list of banks that are too big to fail, our job is to disband them.
I certainly look forward to working with Congress to achieve that.
Hayes: I mean, but you are-you know the power of the bank as well as everyone else.
I mean, they . . . . . . Sanders: Yes, I have heard of it.
Yeah, but that's the point, right?
I mean, it's not an accident that they're still together, right?
So there's no magic wand to wave.
Hayes: Look, this is what you got.
You are facing a powerful ruling class in the United States, and in this pyramid of the ruling class, Wall Street is your opponent.
They have unlimited money.
They have a huge impact on Congress.
But I think people are very angry about what Wall Street is doing to the country, and understand that this may happen again, and angry at all their criminal activities and the fact that they destroy the lives of the people, millions of people, you know, none of them have been prosecuted.
I think people want a change in that. (END VIDEOTAPE)
Hayes: Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton's campaign in Iowa sits down with our own Chris Matthews and pulls away from Sanders's socialist brand. (
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Chris Matthew of MSNBC: What's the difference between socialism and Democrats? CLINTON: Well.
Matthews: Is this the question you want to answer or do you not want to answer politically?
You know, you have to ask.
Matthews: Look, I'm asking you.
You're a Democrat.
He's a socialist.
Do you want to call me a socialist?
I don't like people calling me socialism.
CLINTON: But I'm not.
MATTHEWS: Well, what's the difference between a socialist and a Democrat?
Clinton: I can tell you that I am a progressive Democrat.
I'm a progressive Democrat.
Matthews: What's the difference between this and a socialist?
Clinton: who likes to get things done and who thinks we are better off in this country when we try to solve problems together. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Hayes: The latest polls show Bernie Sanders is only 5 percentage points behind Hillary Clinton in Iowa.
He led the former secretary of state 14 points in New Hampshire.
The problem with Democrats is that, contrary to the problems with Republicans, Iowa and New Hampshire, the first two campaigns, they don't represent the entire Democratic electorate, the opposite.
They are one of the whitest states in the United States: 92% white people in Iowa;
New Hampshire 94% white.
The next two Democratic campaigns will be held in a more diverse crowd, one of which represents the rest of the country, and so far voters of color have been very inclined to Hillary Clinton.
Nevada, for example, is 76% white, and South Carolina is only 68% White.
The big question is whether Bernie Sanders can play in other more diverse states.
Next I will ask an agent who will shift her allegiance from Hillary Clinton to Bernie Sanders. (
Business break)
Hayes: Like me, agents of former Ohio Senator Nina Turner and Bernie Sanders used to support Hillary Clinton, Cornell Belcher, senior Democratic opinion polls expert, brilliant corner research and
Anita, let me start with you.
I mean, you personally changed your mind and the Sanders campaign has made a very consistent effort to reach out to voters of color.
How is progress?
Nina Turner from FRM
Senator Ohio: Well, Chris.
I mean, I think it's
Support anyone to assume Africans
Only one candidate will be voted by American voters. African-
Americans want to win their votes like everyone else.
But everything went well.
I mean, I'm in Chicago with the senator.
I went to Baltimore, you know.
And Africa-
The American community is introducing Senator Sanders in the same way as many others.
Let us not forget that he is a senator of Vermont, who has been serving the state with honor and honor.
He is now running for president of the United States.
But everything went well.
As the campaign team understands, he understands that they will have to win the votes of Africans
American Community
Hayes: You know, Cornell, I was partially impressed when you saw Bernie Sanders far behind Hillary Clinton's numbers in democratic people of color voters.
This gap has narrowed over time.
But what impressed me was that part of it was two things: name recognition.
He is a senator from Vermont. she is clearly a national celebrity.
Second, frankly, the Democratic primary election was established in a strange way for the modern Democratic Union.
I mean, really, when you look at what the Obama League actually looks like, start with Iowa and New Hampshire.
Cornell Belcher, a Democratic pollster: two things.
One is that the campaign should be-the Clinton campaign should be concerned that they will attract former clients like Senator Turner.
So I have some personal interests to get in touch with Africans.
American Community
I mean, the issue with Bernie Sanders, I'll give you some really heavy political science here if you're ready.
Voters don't necessarily vote for the best ten. point plan.
They vote for someone they can contact and they can contact.
I think there's a problem with Bernie Sanders having links with Africans.
The American community, linked to the Hispanic community to a certain extent.
Look, he doesn't need to win minority voters, but if you look at the Super Tuesday southern states, there's a lot of African-American voters there.
Even if you say 68% of the population in South Carolina is white, then 68% of the Democratic primary won't be white.
I mean, Africans.
Americans will do well in this regard.
He has to be able to compete with minorities-compete with minority voters, because if you can't compete in Georgia and Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, you won't be able to win that nomination, most of these in Africa
Population of the United States.
He can't be the Democratic nominee.
I think that's the problem they need to focus on.
I would sleep if I were a member of the Hillary campaign-it's hard for me to fall asleep tonight because I know they 've started working on this and have people like Nina Turner join the campaign.
Hayes: Nina, this is not the first time this has happened.
I mean, it's clear that there have been some similar splits in the past, and there are some people of color voters in the Democratic primary that are very important groups.
They have only more power over time.
You know, Barack Obama is really a novel that breaks the tradition, in part because he's a person of color, but because he can win the constituency, people forget, barack Obama himself had to fight hard with Africans.
American voters in 2008
Turner: That's right.
Chris, of course.
I'm glad you brought it up.
I mean, before Senator Obama won Iowa, a lot of people thought he had no chance in heaven.
They predicted that he would not win the Clinton machine, but he absolutely won.
So it's really Senator Sanders introducing himself.
I agree with Senator Cornell, Senator Sanders and any other Democrat who can't win without Africans.
American Community
Let's not forget Africa
Women in the United States were the highest voting group in 2012.
You can't-but guess what, Senator Sanders doesn't want to win without Africans --
American CommunityHe has heart-soul agreement.
When he talks about raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour, it will bring an immediate raise to Africans --
51% of African-Americans
American Community
When he talked about providing K to all through university education, it helped Africa
American Community
When he talks about racial justice and how he will work to eliminate institutional racism as the next president of the United States.
Chris, he's not just saying this to Africans.
He would say that to all the white people.
So Africa-
Introduced the American community to Senator Sanders.
He's president of Africa.
You have America, I dare say.
We will do everything we can to make sure his voice and message is there so Africa-
The American community will know that Senator Bernie Sanders is their president.
I'm asking you this question, Cornell.
You mentioned that Nina mentioned the way everything is getting better in Iowa.
Most attractive is that this cascade effect can occur in the primary.
Then the actual result came back and the situation really changed.
I mean, what do you think is going to happen, and what is the impact of Bernie Sanders winning in Iowa or New Hampshire?
Does this change the calculation of how likely he is to become a candidate?
Belcher: Well, I kind of flinch-I know there's a myth in Iowa, you know, we want to be in Iowa in 2008, and then we start to win South Carolina, like Africa.
The Americans are waiting for the white man to say he's okay.
The truth is, if you look at the general vote going into this weekend and January in 2008, we basically caught up with tosepp, Iowa, a little bit ahead of the New Hampshire, leading nearly 10 points in South Carolina.
Hayes: That's the product . . . . . . Belcher: So, we built it there.
Hayes: It's a product of a lot of local work.
Nina Turner from Cornell Belcher, thank you for joining me.
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